Tuesday, March 6, 2007

An Interesting Tid-Bit

(Boulder-CO) An article on Henry Abbott's www.truehoop.com concerning Carmelo Anthony brought to my attention an interesting Nugget of information about the Denver superstar via Head Coach George Karl. According to Karl, Carmelo Anthony recorded more double-doubles in one season as a member of the Syracuse Orangemen than he has in his entire NBA career. So, does this mean that the NBA is that much tougher competition than the NCAA or is this just another telling statistic as to just how one dimensional Anthony truly is? Place your two cents in the comments section.

8 comments:

aeneas said...

Carmelo could be way more versatile if he wanted to I think.

by the way I think the nuggets should get ron artest -_-

Stumbleweed said...

I think it just shows where the effort gets focused in the NBA. Yes, there are guys who can make a living with nothing but rebounding (ahem.. Reggie) or defense (Bruce Bowen), but almost all of the A-list players are scorers in one form or another. Some score better than others, and some do other things like play defense, but that's the common thread amongst the superstars in the NBA. Where college is almost always about teams/rivalries, the NBA is always billed as "LeBron vs. Wade" like it's some knid of title fight and nobody else is playing... it's just endemic i nthe culture and marketing of the NBA... So why would someone focus a lot of energy and risk getting banged up in the paint by a guys like Boozer and Howard when they can still get the accolades/fame by scoring 30/game?

I think that it comes down to putting aside individual accomplishments (even getting all those double-doubles, which are more productive than simply scoring) in favor of team wins. Sure, a guy like T-Mac can absolutely light it up any given night, but it's the nights that he plays a well-rounded game and scores about 22 points that the team really plays well. That's what George and the columnist were talking about with Melo -- he's still too caught up in the individual accolades (like getting into the ASG and winning the scoring title) that he sacrifices the parts of his game that can really help us to win.

I think it's a good tactic by George to point that out. But as a bigger issue, I think George needs to totally ignore the stats and focus solely on what makes us win. If it comes down to benching Melo (as the article suggested might happen), then so be it. Maybe a little head-check might get Melo playing the way we need him to be. And maybe then Dermarr might get to take off his warmups for once... (not bloody likely). But yeah, this is the time when you need a veteran leader on the team to get Melo's 22 year-old head straight. Marcus or AI should definitely be the guys for that given their credentials, but I don't think either one of them has it in them.

As much as I don't think it'll work on the court, I think having the presence of a veteran leader like Scottie Pippen would be a good thing for this team. I'm not really advocating making that move in particular, but we do need a veteran presence in the locker room who isn't afraid of giving the other players some shit (a Sam Cassell type).

But you can also get that kind of leadership from a coach, and I think the things that George said in this article are indicating that he's not going to make many more excuses for this team. That's definitely a positive development for us, even if it does lead to benching the league's leading scorer. If we don't win tonight and Melo has another 1 or 2 assist game, then I think that would probably be a good idea, even just to send a message to Melo that he's gotta put more effort into defense and getting the other guys involved on a regular basis.

btalk said...

Here's my two cents...obviously the NBA is tougher competition night in and out. Secondly, NBA teams, Nuggets and a few others excluded, shoot a higher percentage from the field thus leaving fewer opportunities for rebounds. Thirdly, and more illustrative, is the frequent lack of movement in the Nugget offense which makes assist numbers lower!!

Seth said...

I honestly didn't see much of Melo in college, and I don't see him all that often now but...could he play/has he ever played the 4 position? He seems big enough.

JM said...

I don't think Carmelo realizes how much influence he has. If he was more vocal, more intense, hustled on defense, encouraged his teammates, played every game like it was his last, this team would be the toast of the western conference.

With that said, is he the main problem for the Nuggets struggles? No. Certainly there are 12 other guys on that team who are just as capable of doing the same. Iverson has had moments, but I think like everyone else on that team, he's waiting for Carmelo to emerge as the proven leader of this team. I feel at times if this title of "leader" was given to Carmelo to liberally. He needs to earn it. Am I worried? A little for this season. Some of you may remember Michael Jordan was accused vigorously by his fans and the media for the same things his first 5-7 years in the league. He was in his 7th season when he won his first title. It's certainly not over, but he and every other Denver Nugget needs to remember the importance of team basketball and evaluate what separates them from the elite of the Western Conference. Phoenix, San Antonio, Dallas, and Utah play together, they hustle, and they play as a team. If the Nuggets want to be considered in that class, they need to follow their example. I don't mean plays, I don't mean X and O's, I mean how they conduct themselves as a single unit. Emulate that, and there won't be a team that will be able to stop them.

Nugg Doctor said...

Great stuff, folks. Really. I agree with a lot of your points, especially when jm says that "leader" should not be a title that is just given, but rather earned.

Thanks for reading,

The Nugg Doctor

Geerten said...

Why would anybody expect Melo to yank 10+ a game when he's on a team that has Marcus Camby and Kenyon Martin (and NĂȘne and Najera and some others)? In college Carmelo HAD to grab the rebounds. In Denver, his supporting cast is much more oriented towards rebounding than his college team. If I were the coach, I wouldn't want him to focus more on boards. Let the taller guys take care of that. Run Melo Run!!!

Jason said...

I know I kinda missed the main response time for this article, but this has obviously been an area of concern for the coaches, and possibly fans alike.

We all know Carmelo CAN rebound and pass more than he does. He does seemingly play selfish at times. But then again, I have also seen when he passes out of double teams all the team does is either shot a bad jump shot or try to get the ball right back to Melo. I think part of the problem is that the role players on this team need to step up more. Rotate more, shoot more consistently, etc.

I think Melo feels the pressure to be the man, and knows that he can score at will, so that is what he does. As far as defensive effort, maybe he does not realize how bad he is?? As was already brought out, I wish we had a coach or veteran leader that could get through to him.

But Melo will be alright. Last night, he had 21/7/6, not a bad stat line at all!! Although I do think it means a lot to Melo to win the scoring title and average 30 plus a game, and maybe he is obsessing about that a little too much.